This is a digital day/night scope. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. Nothing unethical about this practice. Performance Tuned. Advertise their treachery. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. My time stinks apparently. Kahr moved out of NY. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. Because of rumors of canceled orders. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. I used to love my Springfield XDM and M1a national match. They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. We beat back a similar bill last year. my first AR was a rock river arms rrage. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. This companys name is Mudd. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? And theyre telling their friends. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. Search Ruger anti gun. Damage done. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. Never give one inch or miles will be lost. Which would help with elimination if in the future. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. Henry and Ruger for the win. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. Divide & conquer. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. Gun owners should have bankrupted Ruger immediately, but they didnt. Not everyone reads TTAG or keeps up with this sort of in the weeds stuff. Other places have them for $200.00. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. Get a Dan Wesson instead. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. Never buying anything from springfield ever again and my one xdm is up for sale as of yesterdayI dont even want it in my safe. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. I used to have a TRP. AND started planning to move out of the state. Rock River Arms had one seat. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. Neither excuse is a proper justification. Is there a list somewhere? Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. thats the one ive just stopped considering. RRA will wind up being an LE only shop. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. My hard earned money is going to be spent at Ruger. Now they will pay the price. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. This isnt really about the law itself. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. Bullshit. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. This wasnt the first time gun dealer licensing has come up in Illinois. When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. Thats bad math and bad leadership. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. Typical narrow minded hypocrites. Its about the same price as an M1A. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. Could be paperweights. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. Well do our part in other states to support you. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. PERIOD. Post interesting results everywhere. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. That guy knows the M14 and M1a rifles. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. Such a thing exists. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? Just to be clear, they are using the name of the original company of Springfield, but they are not located in the city of Springfield. But they were happy to allow their lobbyist to finagle them a carve out. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. An XD and its in .40? I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. Compare. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. because Im sure you dont live in illinios. People Of The Gun have long memories. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. Theyre both stuck now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. I totally agree Travis. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). There never was a Henry fi rearms company (until 2002). Great gun. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. Its called doing business. F$&@ Ruger too! Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. it So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. This is how capitalism works. I am still trying to figure out how best to get rid of my XD-40 and assist in flooding the market with used XD pistols. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. Springfield Armory is a dishonest operation from stem to stern. How does what a lobbying group receives from a company 3 years ago translate to what the lobbying group does in the present? If these dam gun man. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. That alone is enough to put them out of business. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. SA created it). No more. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Major mistake, Springfield. And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. Done. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. Your Price: $744.13. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. The original company lives on today under the name Winche ster. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. A corrupt Illinois politician. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. Screw that. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. An American voting for a Democrat Damn shame. Dont know what will replace the EMP4 but I bet the TRP itch gets scratched by a Dan Wesson. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock This is why I said should not will. He might want to eject before the SS Springfield capsizes. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. Well, now. I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. Good luck! When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. Springfield makes decent guns but there are others out there. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. After Bill Ruger died, Ruger also dramatically changed direction. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Its not just selling, genius. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. AR Parts. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. After the backlash he closed down the store and retired. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. As for furniture, the BT 9 R9 Competition comes with a Hogue overmolded pistol grip and a four-position adjustable Rock River Arms buttstock. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. Keyboard commandos wont fight it out on any battlefield. 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